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This is common sense

OMG!!! You can do this???!! I never knew!!!!

Me toooo i never knew that do you know why ?? BECAUSE IM A NOOB

common sense?. i dont think so.. its common sense to set the setting and think your ps3 will use the highest available setting.. I had to do this with Call of Duty to get it to play in 1080p.. kinda stupid you have to do this to.. thought it would have done it on its own.. kinda sucks cause when you start a game thats in 720p it looks like crap.. hope sony fixes this minor problem.. just dont like having to exit a game just to set the Video settings..

Why would someone want to play GTA IV in 1080p if the game itself is not made for this resolution?? The game will look crappier in 1080p than in 720p. I suggest setting the videos definition manually for disable the 1080p option. Just turn it on to see 1080p movies. 99% of the games are 720p.

Wrong Me, Any game 1080p capable on the PS3 always looks better on 1080p settings. Trust me I know, and I immediately know when COD4 is using 720p instead of 1080p. The text lines look more jagged, etc. Any and all 1080p capable games on the PS3 always look better running at that setting… or it would be stupid to even make them 1080p capable. Who would make a higher resolution setting that looks worse, that makes no sense. But it is strange that the PS3 doesn’t auto-seek for the highest setting possible. I just leave 720p and 1080i unchecked, forcing the PS3 to go 1080p on the games I play. When I go to a game that isn’t 1080p capable it simply knocks the resolution down to a crappy 480p setting and I have to go back in and enable 720p. It is a little hassle, but I prefer my 1080p games running at 1080p, it looks better.

artsaber: there are only a couple of games that are native 1080p. The rest are 720p or less which means your PS3 is simply scaling them to 1080p when you set that output resolution.

If you have a 1080p native TV it *may* look better to have the PS3 upscale them instead of your TV… but only if the scaler in the PS3 is better than your TV.

A lot of people have a TV or receiver with a good scaler meaning that setting 1080p on the PS3 will actually make 720p native games look worse.

setting your ps3 to 1080p will absolutely make it look better, if you have a 1080p set. basically if you have it default outputting to 720p, then the ps3 will resize the original render from 640 to 720, then you tv will resize it from 720 to 1080, losing 2 generations. if you set your ps3 to 1080, it will resize it from 640 to 1080 directly, and wit willl look a whole lot more comparable and arguably better than the 360 (cuz it’s dithering and lighting sucks). that’s why the 720p comparisons of 360vsPS3 make the 360 look much clearer, when it is not, cuz a generation is lost on the ps3 pics. so unless you’re running a tv with 1280×720 resolution, run at 1080p. and sell the 1280×720 tv, it is almost worthless.

christ! why isn’t this more widely known. does anyone know what it does for the commodore 64 crowds in pro evo?

I confirm! Every game looks better in 1080p, if it is capable. Not only native 1080p ones.

This is the way for upscale to 1080p, not really pure. There are any differences of normal 720p and upscaled 1080p. Sorry, this is ineffective..

Re: GT4 – to all those saying switching off all but 1080p is not pure, but only upscaling: what about the fact it lists 1080p as one of the compatible resolutions (along with 720 and, IIRC, 1080i)? Not having a go here, I’d honestly like to know if that’s relevant before I go and change my settings for this one game.

What you need a 1080p set to output in 1080p? Who would have thought of that eh I thought it would do it with a SD telly amazing eh

Loads of titles do this Ninja Gaiden Sigma is another example (althought it goes blurry on that with scaling).

This aint news this is a dark ages history lesson of how we all learnt to get 1080p/i on officially unsupported games when the PS3 was released

I have a quick question here
I have a 32″ 720p hd tv, but I can change the setting into 1080p
this is weird, and it’s not 1080i but it’s 1080p
what’s up with that?

I change the setting from ps3 btw to make it clear

yeah u can run it in 1080p on your 720 tv, but you’ll just be losing another generation.

it goes 640p (game) > 1080p (ps3 upscale) > 720p (tv downscale)

so it will be less clear than just running in 720p. and of course u can run 1080p on it (unless it is too old), and with component cables too, only when HDCP (copy protection) isn’t needed

again the optimal way to see the game, depends on your tv

if you have a true 720p set, let the game run in 720
if you have a 1080p set, set it to run in 1080

I have a tv that has a greater true resolution than 720, but less than 1080, so i set it to 1080 and have the tv downscale it to whatever it can handle. it looks like CRAP when i have it set on 720, which is why i wasn’t suprised when i read it rendered at 640

Great tutorial, works perfect and looks alot better than 720p on my 50 inch hdtv!

pening, you will definitely not see a difference on a 32″ screen! I’m glad this works for some people. It does work in other games such as Call of Duty 4.

The native resolution of GTA4 on the PS3 is 630p. The PS3 then upscales this resolution to the closest possible (720p). This is exactly the same native resolution that CoD4 ran in. Enjoy the placebo effect of 1080p, because upscaling aside you are further distorting the native 640p resolution the higher you upscale. For you HD n00bs out there 720p is going to be the optimal resolution for upscaling no matter what you think you see.

Works great thanks!

i have a samsung 50″ 1080p DLP TV and i was wondering if there is any way i can tell if my games are at the resulation that they can support. thanks

n00bfender, you’re straight up wrong.

putting it in the highest resolution doesn’t make it look any worse due to “distortion”. the ps3 has really good upscaling, and the upscaling will look better (most likely) than the tv’s upscaling. either that, or you leave it in 720p, which usually doesn’t look as good on a 1080p tv. tv’s almost ALWAYS look better in their native resolution, upscaled or not.

y does the tv have 2 be above 40″ 4 the 1080p 2 work well the tv that im planning ob buying is a 32″ 1080p hd tv

daredog, looking at the back of the game box tells you what resolution the game supports. The T.V should then notify you what the game has booted up in. Nobody, seeing the difference from 720p to 1080p on anything smaller than 40inch is very minimal, you probably can’t see any difference. Thats not to say the T.V your buying is rubbish, the picture could well be sharper at 1080p.

yeah it lets me select 720p, 1080i, and 1080p in my settings but when i go to start up a game it dosent tell me what its setting it at like most tvs. is there any way i can find out?

Is there any options or a menu system on your TV remote? have a flick through the menu’s.

You know, the rez is a bit better and the colors are a little more vibrant in GTA IV in 1080p. And some details I noticed. But 1080p is only for a nitpicker like myself.

You always want it native to your panel so if its 720p choose that instead of 1080i if its 1080p choose that unless the PS3 scaling alters it (as in the case on Sigma scaling to 1080p you loose definition). This also means if you have a set what can do 1:1 full pixel you can also enable that when its native and see more of the image. When the 360 and PS3 scale properly on the games you wont loose any definition and its much better to use their scalers for this than your TV.

People forget Halo3 wasnt 720p either and that looked fine upscaled to 1080p on 360.

I tried this and I can’t tell the difference. I have a 46″ Sony Bravia X. Maybe my TVs upscaler is as good as the PS3 cause they are both Sony?

Like I said, COMMON SENSE. If you didnt know this, then just accept the fact that you have no common sense. Or common knowledge on this technology. It is very simple to figure out, and was known SINCE THE RELEASE OF THE PS3. IT CHOOSES THE FIRST GOD DAMN RESOLUTION YOU MORONS. So you click all three and do the fucking math. 720 comes first. GOd damn your stupid.

at big t: you’re a cunt

Ok so here’s the deal:

On a 1080p set or monitor, setting the PS3 to scale to 1080p will look ever so slightly less fuzzy. Here’s why:

Each time you scale something up, it will look slightly fuzzier. The thing is, the PS3 version runs at 640p. So before changing this setting, the PS3 is scaling from 640p to 720p, then the screen is scaling from 720p to 1080p. This is two scaling passes, and each pass will add an extra amount of fuzz.

However, if the PS3 scales directly to 1080p, it cuts out the middle scaling pass (the one that brings it up to 720p). Think of it like chinese whispers, the message gets distorted each time.

Of course, this is assuming the PS3 is scaling directly from 640p to 1080p as opposed to scaling from 640 to 720 to 1080 when you set this option on.

SO IF I HAVE A 1080i TV, I SHOULD SET THE PS3 TO OUTPUT 1080i?

TREVOR_P. The difference between 720p and 1080i is very very minimal but yes it should output 1080i using the above instructions.

Thanks.

If my TV has a Native Res of 768p, would displaying games in 720p be better or should i go to 1080p as the native res for my tv is higher than 720p?

Nobody else is saying it so I will. If you think “The difference between 720p and 1080i is very very minimal” you clearly know NOTHING about hdtv’s.

Here you’re upscaling a 630p game to 1080p, which will be very minimal, but only because you’re an idiot for thinking that it’s actually outputting a native 1080. Wikipedia the term ‘upscaling’ and realize that either your TV or the PS3 does it to bring this 630p image up to 1080p. All you’re doing is forcing the work onto your PS3. IF it has any effect at all, it will be putting more strain on your PS3 by making it do extra work. Learn before you post shit.

The games definitely look better in 1080p. I have a Sony 46″ xbr4 and did some testing on the few games I have. I wasn’t aware of the games coming up in 720p because the first game I played was Metal gear Solid 4 which natively came up as 1080p.

On GTAiv the game is slightly clearer. I could only really tell when I got a close look at the faces of people. On MLB the show 08, the game looked great when I first played it and found out it was 720p. I then went back and forth between 720p and 1080p and it is better at 1080p. Looking at the pitcher in 720p, you could see jagged lines and slight blurring, but the jaggedness is gone when I set my ps3 to play it as 1080p.

So, I suggest people just test and see what looks better for them and their TVs. I’ve heard many viewpoints saying better in its native res, or better upscaled to 1080p, and for me it is better upscaled to 1080p (when game is 1080p compatible of course) Oh, not sure how many games are native 1080p, but MGS4 is and it looks awesome, hehe.

Thank you so very much!!! I’m searching for this information since three days, and I asked Playstation, Samsung (TV), and Rockstar Games, and nobody had the answer… Thank you again!

k setting it like this gets crappy resouliton, keep it 720p for the games that can only do that, some games it may be alright in 1080p but for most games are not, it will auto upscale to 1080 if the game was designed to do so if not its completly messing it up look at cod4 for example, the names on peoples heads are streached, the quality isnt that bad but it bothers u its not as crisp as it usually is, all things together dotn upscale it until it was designed for it, well guys good luck come play some socom, all 360s suck duck lmao

DUDE THANK YOU!! i was wondering why it was on 720p all the time and i even went to this window to make sure that 1080p was clicked but i didnt know u had to unclick the other ones. the 720p mode looked kinda stetchy and like a badly drawn cartoon but the 1080p version looks AMAZING! thanks man

keep the fecking camera still you squirt…

I’m sorry but this is just upscaling. I am playing this on a 21.5″ full 1080p monitor, so sitting close reveals the truth, you can see multiple pixels being one, (if you know what I mean). Nice try, and yes, technically it is outputting at 1080p, but, the game on PS3 is not even 720p if I recall, so it is just upscaling. Nice try though, hopefully GTA:V will be 1080p!!

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he is wrong it just up scales the picture

For those who insist on saying that PS3 GTA IV is a 720p game, look at the back of the GTA IV box, in part it reads:

“Supported HD video output: 720p, 1080i, 1080p”

So, unless you have a different version, PS3 GTA IV is suppose to support 1080p. However, as already noted, it defaults to 720p and can’t be changed within the game to the supported 1080p resolution.

For me there is a difference, shadows and writting are less blurry and everything in general is alittle clearer.

Can GTA IV ITSELF (so without upscaling of the PS3 or TV) output 1080P yes or no? Because if it can’t, i do feel bulshitted as a consumer if on the product it says 1080P.

the game is ran at 720p or 480p upscaled, still looks not that great, but what can be 1080p is just the hud display. sorry people. the box says 1080p. but the games native resolution is not 1080p so it loses lots of detail and is ran at a lower resolution cept for the hud. it is like this on lots of games. marketing mislead

I simply can’t believe it! I’ve just finished the main story… could have made that in 1080p if only I had read this before.

Thanks a lot anyway. I’ll gather some patience to play it all again.

PEACE!

ahh thanks man. are these instructional videos i come across on youtube are great..